The second season of âFleabag,â Phoebe Waller-Bridgeâs irreverent dive into grief, alcohol and fornication, had debuted in March in Britain â and turned Scott into a pulse-quickening, knee-weakening sensation who became known among fans as the Hot Priest.
As in: âThe priest is quite hot,â says Fleabagâs sister. âSo hot,â replies Fleabag.
As in: Fleabagâs latest crush.
But earlier this month, before the final round of âFleabagâ had landed on U.S. shores, Scott â despite villainous turns as Moriarty opposite Benedict Cumberbatch in âSherlockâ and opposite Daniel Craig in âSpectreâ â walked through New York virtually unrecognized.
Give it time.
In Season 2 of âFleabag,â now on Amazon, Scott plays a G-and-T-swilling, expletive-spewing, utterly divine man of the cloth about to perform the second wedding of Fleabagâs father. And Fleabag, true to form, canât help but be drawn to someone so wildly inappropriate.
Itâs a role Waller-Bridge has said could have only been played by Scott, whom she met in a theatrical production a decade earlier. âAndrew has the charisma of 10 people rolled into one,â she told The Guardian in February.
She first broached it in what Scott recalled as a magical sit-down with Waller-Bridge in a Quaker meeting house in London, where they mused on the portrayal of religious people on television and what kind of love they wanted to create.
âI think weâre both very romantic and have a light attitude toward sex and ownership,â he said. âIt was very nice to play someone whoâs closer to myself.â
Scott, who grew up gay and Catholic in Dublin, has firsthand knowledge of sexuality and the church â an experience he found damaging. Leaving Ireland in his early 20s, he took root in London, gathering laurels including an Olivier nomination for best actor in Robert Ickeâs acclaimed 2017 production of âHamlet.â Americans fancied him too: He earned a Drama League nomination for his 2006 Broadway debut in âThe Vertical Hour,â directed by Sam Mendes, who is reuniting Scott and Cumberbatch in his coming World War I drama, â1917.â
Just hours before his flight home to begin rehearsals for NoĂŤl Cowardâs âPresent Laughterâ at the Old Vic, Scott, 42, ducked into an Upper West Side restaurant to discuss keeping the faith and losing his religion.
Here are edited excerpts from the conversation.
People are saying youâre the best thing to happen to Catholicism lately.
(Laughing) Itâs such a strange thing. I certainly think âFleabagâ has got people talking about sexuality and religion and how those two things can marry each other and coexist. The statistics that have come out since the show began, theyâre mind-blowing about what people are looking up on the internet â I saw something the other day that religious pornography has increased by 125% while the show is on. I mean, maybe something else is going on but I definitely think the show just does it for people.
Are you still Catholic?
No, itâs not something that I am anymore. I emancipated myself from that very rigid, controlled attitude toward sex. Itâs been an absolute great joy and itâs made me quite proud to be able to talk about sex in a way that is without self-consciousness or awkwardness.
What about celibacy and the priesthood?
I feel like itâs extremely dangerous territory to desexualize any human being. Frankly, I donât know if itâs possible because even if you are celibate, it doesnât mean that youâre not sexual. I really welcome a priest being able to marry because I donât think those things are mutually exclusive, the love of God and the love of having a sexual, romantic partner. I think, in fact, it would help things enormously.
Youâve spoken about the damage done to you by the church as a child. What do you mean?
Being gay certainly wasnât allowed. So if you want to be a good kind member of the community, you canât also be a sexual member of the community. Youâre either a renegade or youâre a very good neighbor. You canât be both those things â and I want to be both those things. (Laughs)
And yet youâve recently chosen to buy a home in Dublin, where same-sex marriage was legalized in 2015.
The emancipation of Ireland to me is so incredibly joyful. You see that people are able to hold their partnerâs hand without feeling that theyâre going to be given a dirty look. When I go back to Dublin and see that, it just fills my heart because that is new. And I think it shatters that idea that religious people donât understand sexuality because of course they do.
Much has been made of your chemistry with Phoebe â though some viewers have been surprised that a straight woman and a gay man could combust like that.
I just find it just sort of shocking ... Iâm hesitant to say insulting but, I mean, itâs not what chemistry is about. The reason that chemistry is such a fun word to say is because that is about more than sex and itâs about more than brains. Itâs about fun and connection. And at the stage door when I do a play, the fans that come and see me are mostly female. For years Iâve always thought, Well, this isnât based on my sexuality. So who is creating this myth?
Is âkneelâ your new pickup line? A million hearts have swooned over that make-out session in the confessional â and that possible sign from above.
That scene is extraordinary, isnât it? Phoebeâs really not afraid of the grand gesture. Sheâs not afraid of long scenes, sheâs not afraid of pictures falling off walls or of foxes following you to ...
... the bus stop and that final farewell, which left me shredded.
I do feel that heâs deeply in love with her â thatâs what I feel. (Pause) Thatâs a spoiler.
In 2017, your âHamletâ earned raves for making the language more accessible.
I was obsessed with the idea that 350 books have been written about Shakespeare â how you say it, who said it before, whatâs not right, what is right. Thereâs academia surrounding Shakespeare like no other writer has ever been burdened with. And the reason itâs a burden is because it means that itâs for a certain type of rarefied person and nobody else. I started (performing Shakespeare) when I was about 13 and I didnât really understand him. So when it came to âHamlet,â I wanted them to be able to understand absolutely everything that I said, still adhering to the rhythm of it but just not being really Shakespeare-y with it. Rob Icke, our director, says this brilliant thing, which is it shouldnât be like eating your greens.
It was very important to me and to Rob that we got a young audience. And they came and they understood it and they loved it. âHamletâ is a thriller about a young man with mental health issues. Thatâs something that people want to watch on Netflix.
Youâve warned against only LGBT actors playing LGBT roles. Why?
We absolutely adore when our parents are reading us a story when weâre 3 years old and they put on the voice of the wolf. Transformation is very important for actors. Itâs something that the audience and the actor want. And I think the question should be about who gets to transform into what. For a long time, gay people havenât been allowed to transform into straight people. But making straight people not be allowed to transform into gay people doesnât seem to me to be the answer. I really do believe that we contain multitudes, and more than just our sexuality. We can have great empathy with people who donât come from the same social background, the same sexuality, even the same race. I often ask gay people, If someone was to play you in a film of your life, would you want just gay actors? And the answer is always very varied.
And you?
No, I wouldnât just want ... because I have other attributes.
Who would you want, then?
(Laughs) Uh, Iâd have to go with Streep.
This article originally appeared in The New York Times.